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On 17/04/17 16:41, Neil via list wrote: > Well, I have had two more goes. And finished up back at my usual log in > screen again. Either I haven't got the hang of this button or it is not > working. I think I will have to leave it for the moment while I take > time to think about this. I have noticed that the button does not seem > to move when I press it. Being ancient and not very agile I do not find > it easy to get at anyway. > > Thanks for all the time and help so far. I will get back to you about > it. I do not wish to be beaten by this, Well, at least you tried instead of just plain not bothering - that's a result in itself. You now know that attempting a CMOS reset didn't blow your computer into smithereens even if it doesn't seem to have worked. Did it definitely *not* work by the way? Have you 100% confirmed that rebooting and then constantly tapping the F2 key all the way from power on to login screen definitely doesn't arrest boot and drop you at the setup screen? This might not be the best time to mention this but the absolute worst thing about all of this is that if you had a Windows 8.1 or 10 install instead of Linux, you can just go into the control panel and select "reboot to UEFI setup" and it will work first time. I do know just how lame that is but blame Microsoft, Intel and all the motherboard manufacturers for playing along in the never ending war of convenience against end users. Can't have damned free thinkers installing non-prescribed software on their own hardware now can we? [insert a lot of very bad words here]. Please let me know if the "batter F2" trick definitely still doesn't work - try it at least twice - and then we'll take a break for a while and regroup. It might take MJE or myself to be onhand but the escalation step for this is to pop the case open and get our hands on the actual jumpers and internal reset switches. Congrats on sticking with this so far. Cheers -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq