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Hi All On 6 Mar 2013, at 10:21, Simon Robert -Cottage wrote: > On 06/03/13 10:51, Paul Sutton wrote: >> On 06/03/13 09:40, Simon Robert -Cottage wrote: >>> On 06/03/13 00:52, Paul Sutton wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I have added a ceop report abuse button to the lug website on the main >>>> page, partly as this is in line with what a lot of other places are >>>> doing and it shows we are committed as group to protecting children and >>>> vulnerable groups (which I assume as a group or individuals we are) >>>> >>>> Paul >>> sure have such a button on facebook or other social media sites where >>> there may be an actual danger of grooming, but on the LUG site it >>> smacks of unneeded posturing. Why not a notice saying the site >>> contains no nuts (actually probably not true!) and is suitable for >>> vegans as well... >>> >>> I think sticking this button on sites to which it is irrelevant >>> devalues the button and also makes it seem that there are worries that >>> LUG members could use the site for grooming and other abusive >>> activities. Having it prominently at the top just looks weird to me. >>> Are there also buttons for things like financial fraud, malware, >>> fishing etc., because if you're going to make a child abuse hotlink >>> the first thing a user sees maybe other links should also be up there. >>> >>> If you intend to keep it, stick it at the bottom of the page or a side >>> panel or something... >>> >>> S >>> >> The same link appears on school websites it does NOT imply to that there >> are bad people in the schools, It is there so its another place where >> one can go to find the link to report abuse etc. >> >> As for moving it please feel free to log in and move it, I am sick of >> doing stuff on the site only to be criticised over something, >> constructive stuff about a broken link is fine, but this strikes me as >> precisely why we need the link. >> >> A few months ago I commented on the website and te need for it to be >> improved, since then we have had a few blog posts, and then it goes >> quiet (granted people are busy) part the reason for this is the lock >> down, and difficulty people have in getting accounts, I make a >> contribution and seem to get bashed about it., >> >> >> >> >> as for the comment in the other post >> >> " >> and still on the subject, doesn't such a link need some context about >> what it is, is for, and what CEOPs is. This justs sits there at the top >> of the page declaring "we are not in favour of child abuse" to those who >> actually know what it is... If it's going to be there it must be >> explained why it is there, how it can be used and so on... " >> >> people know what CEOP is. as I said there are links to ceop on school >> websites and other related sites it's there as a gateway to reporting, >> >> I have just added it to the site, so hopefully we are yet another site >> that shows we care, I thought Iw was doing the right thing, clearly not >> maybe therefore I should not bother adding more content to the site, I >> am sick of being got at. >> >> Paul >> >> >> > OK, sorry, whatever. But don't be so sure that CEOP is that well known, especially > seen in a context were it seems to be unexpected. I've heard of CEOPs as they turn > up on the Today prog on Radio 4, but I cannot recall ever having seen the button > before. So as the LUG site is not a school website and not social media frequented > by masses of young people I stand by what I said. > > I guess we care about many terrible things that happen to people, but I am really > not sure why this issue should be singled out and why it should have a link. Why > not a link to sites to help women with violent partners or people with substance > abuse problems or the Samaritans? > > So I know why you've done it but I still think it's strange up there at the top > with absolutely no explanation of what it is or why it's there on a site to which > it has only marginal relevance. But if you're that passionate about the subject > I'm not about to object. > I must admit I agree with Simon on this one. If we're going to display the button, I think we ought to back it up with a reason why page. It does seem to stand as a bit unusual. If you go to the CEOP site there is plenty of resources that could be used to develop a page just stating why we display the badge. --- Kind regards Richard Brown Youth Worker Wild Woods Project 07747 343637 http://wild-woods.org.uk/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq