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On Friday 20 October 2006 09:55, William Fidell wrote: > Tom Potts wrote: > > By simply informing companies that use flash you are not going to use it > > and they don't really need to then real alternatives will surface - like > > html/javascript for almost all flash. > > Like AJAX? Which is a bitch to debug and work perfectly across the > board, not to mention bitchingly slow. Flash for all its other > problems, is very easy to pump db driven data into. > > To more points about flash, 1) it is mainly used by "creative" types, > who prefer drawing to coding and 2) it is used by ~98% of internet > browsers. > > Yes, there probably shouldn't be a monopoly and somebody should develop > an alternative. But it has to be a viable one. > > Wills I know I should really practice what I preach here and actually do something. Its one of the reasons I moved to the farm - didn't quite reckon on the kids and the weather properly.... It just needs an front end to create and link the active elements together. That could be an AJAX but the output can be pure html/javascript/svg*/images or even the new HTML panel element! But no, not LIKE AJAX - AJAX is a bitch to debug but only because no-one seems to put that framework in at the start - there is a JSunit somewhere but using venkman and a bit of common sense ( how about a logging window and a DEBUG boolean/integer?) it shouldn't be too hard - a lot easier than replacing Flash! Tom te tom te tom *just wondering what the svg browser penetration is? You can get a panel in Firefox - anyone know if it works in IE yet? -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html