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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 Feb 2003 9:55 pm, David Johnson wrote: > Neil Williams wrote: > >On Tuesday 11 Feb 2003 6:50 pm, David Johnson wrote: > >>Neil Williams wrote: > >31/mth + calls. Ouch. Is BT the only supplier and is it worth going for > > the 45/mth option with 60/mth call allowance? Which ISP do you use? > > I use Demon. Not cheap, but you get what you pay for. For a start, > support is excellent (and not a premium rate number), they do SMTP > forwarding and there is no cut-off. I only have off-peak access, but we > can easily stay dialed up from Friday night through to Monday morning > without interruption. > > Have a look at http://www.demon.net/products/access/premier-standard.shtml. > > Their off-peak works out at about £18.75 per month inc vat, but that > doesn't include your ISDN line rental. How much is that? £31/mth on the BT site for no call allowance. > nice, but it's annoying to have the extra bandwidth but not be able to > use it :-( According to the site, you could use it if you paid for the calls instead of using SurfTime - sounds like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. 0.6p per minute evenings and nights (Mon - Fri, 6pm - midnight, midnight - 8am) 0.5p per minute weekends (midnight Friday - midnight Sunday) SurfTime - £7/mth = 1400 minutes at weekends = 23hrs. Using both channels, you would be limited to 12hrs a month before you were losing money again. I can see why you are on SurfTime - don't be quite so upset about the bandwidth - you might have it available but it'll cost you an arm and a leg to access it! Thereagain, if you paid £45/mth with no SurfTime you'd have a £60/mth call allowance for an extra £14. That would give you 100hours a month at DUAL channel speed free of charge per month (1p/min at dual rate = 6,000 minutes for £60), PLUS the extra £7/mth you wouldn't be paying - another 14hrs. Did you think about it that way? (Still a hefty price tag compared to ADSL - thanks BT.) http://www.bt.co.uk/isdn/isdn2e/price_info/price_options.htm (You might need to register with BT to see it). Total price per month: £56.75 for 114hrs at dual channel, 228 at single channel. I've just re-ordered the lowest spec RADSL from eclipse, (£110 setup + £22.75/mth, equivalent to £32.08/mth for the 12mth contract) just to prove that the lowest possible rate is still impossible (according to BT). Only when they turn me down for that (which they 99% likely will) does ISDN become an option - at more than double the price - setup of ISDN is £200 from BT. - -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.codehelp.co.uk http://www.dclug.org.uk http://www.wewantbroadband.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SXgRiAEJSii8s+MRAn+LAKDnyeskYp+CeMWiRev5UyWh3vBviwCglo2V 5cezjChpHhH4ky8mJ2HBelU= =lgdL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.