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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 what would cause a previously working system to try to run THIRTY copies of cron and thirty copies of python -S /var/lib/mailman/qrunner, leading the load average to hit 47! I did have a copy and paste of the actual 'w' output on this laptop but THIS then crashed as well and I lost that! It all started with that Mozilla spell-check error and ever since, whether mozilla is running or not, I suddenly find that the machine won't respond to the mouse, keyboard or network for upto TWENTY minutes at a time. It never exits on it's own, it's either a nasty shutdown or wait (this time 35 minutes) for a telnet session to login, give me a root prompt, get a ps -ax output kill 60 jobs (including crond) and hope. I mean sometimes, after killing all those jobs, stupid things stop working (like the network - quite a bummer when I'm actually trying to fix the machine over the LAN - but also things like alsa.). WHAT is wrong with it? I've tried stopping crond before starting any work, but now even KPPP causes the system to loop. I'm beginning to think it's the linmodem driver. BTW. Does anyone know what 'No carrier' really means in terms of the level of line noise? I'm getting bouts of >2hrs at a time of No Carrier reports and I'm waiting for BT to come and check it (-> not our problem is the expected response). I'm not allowed to have any form of broadband, my modems don't connect and my main machine is on a fast loop to silicon heaven. HELP! - -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.codehelp.co.uk http://www.dclug.org.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+QFbYk7DVr6iX/QIRAnTgAJ9dlgVnO80r6B8cbhlxtG6rrNXc9QCeIg2m tk70KAJfpZfyBiI1+/5Syuw= =kNcX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.