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On 17/06/2021 14:25, Michael Everitt wrote:
> See below (per netiquette)...
>
> On 17/06/2021 13:25, Simon Waters wrote:
>> First I'd like to thank Paul for his work on the website, and for his other
>> work organising and promoting the group, and hope he will continue in both.
>>
>> We've had a number of threads over the years about the website, but the upshot
>> has generally been a burst of interest, and then it has gradually declined
>> until it is just or mostly Paul again. We've had contributions from Ron and
>> Matthew this year, otherwise all the posts on the website are from Paul, and
>> they cover everything from NCSC hardening guidance for Ubuntu LTS to local
>> coding events. The content is relevant, interesting, and contributed
>> consistently by Paul.
>>
>> I'm as guilty of leaving it to Paul as others, possibly more so, as whilst
>> I've sorted the occasional problem, I've left Paul without the benefits of any
>> relevant experience I may have most of the time. I also have outstanding
>> maintenance activities relating to the site to do.
>>
>> That said the current criticism seems to be based on aesthetics, and the
>> belief that because a product is owned by Microsoft it must be inherently evil
>> (although most geeks seem to except GitHub for some reason).
>>
>> (No I've not seen the site on a 4K monitor, and I'm pretty sure Paul won't
>> have either, feel free to email screenshots to admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - I know
>> the heading text scales up rather keenly on my monitor at full size).
>>
>> The WordPress tracker is the only tracker, and the only statistics provided to
>> anyone on the website (since my own log analysis code fell into disrepair). My
>> browser (Brave) blocks this tracker by default, an approach I suggest to those
>> who are worried about being tracked on the web.
>>
>> The website doesn't pull in huge numbers of views, so I don't think it merits
>> huge attention. It was being used to update various social media sites about
>> activities of the group, and I think that is a reasonable use, and something
>> that the current tooling allows.
>>
>> If we want the group to thrive, we need to organize more meetings & events, at
>> which point the tooling to support them will I'm sure receive more love and
>> attention. We've always taken a relaxed (anarchic?) approach to organising
>> meetings, any member can organise a meeting, and promote it through the
>> mailing list, and the website. Since meetings are currently largely virtual
>> this doesn't even require a room (which was the usual problem with organising
>> physical meetings). Although best to co-ordinate these, usually Paul was
>> that co-ordinator, as he could say when other meetings that might conflict were
>> taking place, and I hope he is happy to continue doing that.
>>
>> More generally we may have too many groups and social media sites, with too
>> little content. Again the best fix for that is for other people to help
>> organise events or contribute relevant content.
>>
> I've offered to help Paul out in the past, and he gave me a logon, which I still
> have. Alas, when I started looking at ways to change theme, etc, I don't have the
> admin privileges to make structural changes to the site. Since then, my time has
> become somewhat more precious, but if there are specific changes that are desired,
> I'm happy to dive in and poke things. I'm doing some webadmin work for another
> project, so effort wouldn't be wasted ..
>
> Without prejudice, I know that seabass has become quite an active community member
> here, and has been regularly updating the IRC channel information with meeting times,
> etc, and perhaps might like to contribute too, if he had an 'editor'/etc such role,
> as time/etc permits? Throwing out an invite to contribute rather than chucking the
> poor fella under the bus, but I think as a team we might be able to do some
> improvements, even if Paul remains the 'main man' so-to-speak...
>
> WDYT?!
>
>
Hi all
I don't have a problem adding content, in fact just added a post for the
July meeting, scheduled for July 1st. I am happy to still do that.
Hopefully physical meetings can resume soon too.
What we have determined, is that we need a small team of people to help
handle the admin, choose a fresh theme (which we are discussing on
#DCGLUG-website, we then need to add more content. Either pages or
posts. So we need to work out what we want from content for example.
I guess within that we need content that would suit beginners,
intermediate and advanced users. But should that be general IT stuff too?
How do / can we make that more engaging, should there be a 'template' as
such for posts, so they look more uniform or at least have some 'core'
information for example such as a link back to the website ?
In terms of meetings:-
I am still be involved in code club (or will be), and a tech jam type
event in Paignton.
We probably need to decide on what we would like, I agree with Simon we
need more physical meets / events.
So lets all work together and make the LUG more attractive to people.
Hope this helps and thank you.
Regards
Paul
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