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On 10/09/15 22:51, Jay Bennie wrote: > If you thinks thats offensive, wait till you .... Interesting - I hadn't even looked it at from that perspective, only from the "internal testing for company use" aspect. Is it true that you only get one login on home edition??! That's... just insane. I'm hating Linux quite a lot at the moment as well and despise Apple with all my heart (ChromeOS: also LOL NO) so am looking to jump ship. The death by one thousand cuts of flash at long last might finally make OpenBSD a realistic option, or at least Free/Dragonfly. Just installed OpenBSD on a spare laptop that I actually kind of need to use as a sort of daily driver, so let's find out I guess. Windows 10 did indeed break it for me - I was almost the Microsoft apologist here on/off for a while but this latest crap? No, just no. What makes me really cross is that I can defend myself, and, with a lot of effort I don't really want to have to expend but don't have much of a choice in anymore, most of my nearest and dearest as well. However, a thought experiment: A young family, nobody particularly IT literate, saves up and buys a new laptop for xmas. They don't know any better so all share the same account (which is a Microsoft live login because again, they didn't know any better) and don't change any privacy settings or security options (because... well, you know: they're normal people, how are they supposed to know this sort of stuff?). Dad is doing the accounts and a little online betting, Mum is following up her genealogy hobby and trying to track down her non-adoptive parents, little Jimmy is undoubtedly looking at boobies when he gets a chance and fragging his mates online and little Sophie is naively connecting her first cell phone and letting her magic laptop sync all her contacts, messages and phone cam pics to the cloud. In fact, all of them are doing that and facebooking at the same time. And a lot of other important, private, critical stuff because that single machine is their lifeline to the internet. Like literally hundreds of millions of other families they can only afford to have one cheap, simple windows equipped laptop they bought in a sale at Currys or whatever. Microsoft get ALL of their lives in perpetuity - they're (almost) literally raping those people's privacy from day one and the poor souls have no idea. They bought that computer in good faith, with their own money and now MS are monetising those children's lives. In my entire history of being a professional paranoid, internet ranter and tinfoil hat wearer I have never before seen a company just so openly double down on the corporate line and pop a proper, total, f*** you moment. Normally I'd be exploding in psychopathic rage at this point but I think it's a bit late. I just feel a bit sad :[ I think collectively we're in quite a lot of trouble now. Windows 10 wasn't a shot across the bows, it was a major, major escalation. The internet's been created and ruined in my lifetime for god's sake. *sigh* -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq