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On 13/02/14 13:28, Simon Waters wrote: > See some on the list haven't managed to get their employers to migrate > away from XP yet. > > Microsoft are plugging malware as the reason to upgrade, but I never > realised features of IE SSL support depends entirely on OS, not browser > version. Okay they can mitigate this with changes to a better browser, but > did wonder if pressure on IPv4 addresses might create a different > incentive to ditch XP - when all the websites start going with SNI. > > Aside from security, the web, are there other compelling forces that will > make folk migrate? > > The good news is any vulnerabilities found in the next few months will > almost certainly be held back by the discover's till Microsoft stops > fixing them, when they become even more valuable. > > I've got a surprisingly large cohort of clients who despite my constant remonstrations, are only now just starting to panic and pull the trigger on the update away from XP. This despite I've been banging on at them about it since the EOL date was formally announced... and warning them that if they insist on leaving it to the last minute and piling the workload on me it's going to be expensive. Migration strategy is a mixed bag: a lot of these XP machines are on contemporary-to-XP-release hardware (single core, <2Gb RAM, 32bit environment) which is complicating things as not all are willing or able to splash out on new hardware to go with their Microsoft license fees. As a result, I'm seeing surprisingly high uptake of Linux for basic usage desktops amongst customers who wouldn't normally touch anything non-MS with a bargepole. I've finally convinced at least some of them that their secretaries, data inputters and assorted office admin staff without specialist requirements for VB scripting/macros (I know, I know...), MS coding environments and the like that a trimmed Linux install with Libreoffice and so on will be perfectly usable daily drivers, even on the old hardware - I am making some of them at least upgrade the worst boxes with some RAM. I'd say it's about 50% currently, with the rest universally buying new machines and wanting either Win7 or Win8 (also an approximately equal split). So far the first brave Linux adopters have been pretty pleased once the initial hiccups were surmounted. The funny thing is then how a couple of them were enthusing about their new, low-cost, secure Linux systems and asking me why we hadn't implemented this earlier: this is of course despite me having been recommending this for at least 5 years *rolls eyes* I can't believe how hard it is to talk some companies into saving themselves money sometimes... Regards Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq