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Nobody is setting people against you Neil, but if you continue to segregate yourself for no good reason then you may find yourself in that position. I've updated the page again, I suspect someone else will continue to edit it. Still in #DCGLUG, matt -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq