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On 21/03/13 09:54, Paul sutton wrote:
If people reply could you please trim this thread properly it is a MESS. I have left it intact so it illustrates the issue, I do try and do this if i can but it is now just messy Paul________________________________ From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 17:37 Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes. ________________________________ From: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:58 Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes. On 17/03/13 15:35, JOHN DAVEY wrote:________________________________ From: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:09 Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes. On 17/03/13 12:43, JOHN DAVEY wrote:________________________________ From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:24 Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes. ________________________________ From: Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:17 Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes. On 17/03/13 12:13, JOHN DAVEY wrote:------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx> *To:* list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Sent:* Sunday, 17 March 2013,12:06*Subject:* Re: [LUG] MoreRaspberry woes.On 17/03/13 12:04, JOHN DAVEYwrote:Hi, last night I visited theRaspberry site where it reccomended I doan "sudo apt-get update" ansa "sudo apt-get upgrade" , now it won'tboot into a graphicalinvironment. What have I done wrong ?Jon Davey.Does the graphical environmentstart with startx, you may need tore-run the config utility andtell it to start in graphical modeagain, perhaps something in theupdate changed one of the settings.paul http://www.zleap.net <http://www.zleap.net/> skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 http://www.raspberrypi.org <http://www.raspberrypi.org/> http://www.ubuntu.com <http://www.ubuntu.com/> I am committed to safeguardingchildren, young people and vulnerablegroups and expect any school orestablishment I am involved with toshare this commitment. -- The Mailing List for the Devon& Cornwall LUGhttp://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq I have tried that but theredoesn't even seem to be a propper commandprompt, just a flashing line atthe edge of the screen...erk, sounds like there is more of adeeper problem, I will let gordonor perhaps one of the more experiencedusers give a few suggestions.Do you have a spare sd card you canmake a new image and try that,this rules out hardware issuesperhaps.Paul http://www.ubuntu.com I am committed to safeguardingchildren, young people and vulnerable groups and expect any school or establishment I am involved with to share this commitment.....no I don't have a spare card. Ohgod why does this always seem to happen to me ?!?!...I was just thinking, is it possiblethat I have downloaded too much onto my SD card. I'm not sure why the site would tell me to do this if it was going to have this effect but....what can I say my Raspberry is now unuseable and when it boots up is says something about "[warn] root filesystem has insufficient filespace" what have I done?!Jon Davey."[warn] root filesystem has insufficient filespace" This suggests that you should delete or copy some filesoff your SD card and delete them. For example files in the /home directory can backed up then deleted. You can always copy them back afterwards. I suspect that the upgrade process copied a large number of updated packages that filled up your SD card. Unfortunately its your responsibility to check you have enough space as no distributor of any software can tell you how much space you have left.For example I could recommend you have an 8Gb card butat some point you will use that space up . After packages are downloaded they are unpacked (which temporary takes even more space. I would suggest that the upgrade bombed out halfway because of lack of space to unpack one of the upgraded packages. Everything will look ok, but the next time you start up, the system will need some space for logs etc and this is where you run into problems.As I said before, put your SD card in a card reader lookat the files in /home, copy some large ones onto some other storage and delete them off the SD card, see if it boots, if it does do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade again and watch the output carefully. If your lucky it will finish and correct any anomalies. I would also suggest apt-get clean in case any installed package files are still being cached. If all is well at that point check how much space you have and if you can copy back the files you backed up earlier. If you don't have the space to do this then it really is time to invest in a higher capacity SD card.If its any consolation I have run into the same problemon desktops when my root drive filled up. I couldn't even get a console session from Alt-F1 etc... Luckily sshd had started so in the end I had to ssh into the system (the only way I could get access) and delete some stuff (log files in /var/logs are a good source of redundant bloated log files, although these days logrotate tends to keep them in check, not sure if pi supports logrotate as I dont have one .... yet).Treat it as a learning execise ;-) Good Luck. Tom. e ? Hi, thanks for the reply. I don't have an SD card reader soI'll have to get one of those I guess from somewhere. I'm not really sure how to check how much space I have on my card yet. I'll work it out somehow.Cheers, Jon DAVEY.Assuming you have a second machine: Is ssh configured on your pi? If so, and you have a second machine you could try ssh terminal connection. If you can log in that way you should at least be able to tidy up some stuff... possibly enough to get it to boot properly. That way you wouldn't need an SD card reader (although they are always handy things to have and cost £1 in poundland). Tom. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq Tom, I have reqalised that there is an SD reader on my wifes notebook which I should be able to use but I've heard a lot about ssh'ing and it sounds interesting I'd like to learn how to do it... Cheers, Jon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq ...also I have checked and I do have an 8mb SD card. When you suggested using another machine to delete some files were you assuming that any other machine I might have is a Linux one? Because all I have access to is my wifes wwindows notebook. I havn't tried plugging the SD card into this yet as I am afraid I might do something wrong. Can I in fact do this ? and wil I be able to get any positive results ? Jon.-- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq
And dont top post! Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq