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On 16/01/12 20:55, Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, paul sutton wrote: > >> On 16/01/12 20:38, Gordon Henderson wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Rob Beard wrote: >>> >>>> I figured something like the 6502 would probably be well documented >>>> these days and I'm sure I can probably find a book on it. I want to >>>> learn something simple so I thought 8-Bits would be a good start :-) >>> >>> The 6502 is so well documented that someone has done this: >>> >>> http://visual6502.org/JSSim/ >>> >>> Come back when you know the difference between Indexed Indirect and >>> Indirect Indexed addressing :-) >>> >>> You might want to look at AVR (Arduino) though - relatively cheap to >>> get into with a "proper" :) assembler and C compiler. The AVR >>> instruction set is quite nice and easy on the eyes too... >>> >>> I have to say though - it's just too easy to jump to C... The C >>> compilers for the 8-bit chips really are quite good - I did a lot of >>> PIC stuff using SDCC which took away all the hassles of it's >>> bank-switched nastiness... >>> >>> Then again, Atari asteroids was coded in under 8KB of 6502 assembler... >> >> Neat, this is something that would make a good talk at a lug meet or >> similar as I don't really understand how to use this properly > > How to use what properly? > > If you mean Arduino, then don't look at me ... > > I do use it properly - which is by using Makefiles and pure C - none of > this Java based IDE and C++ they supply it with ;-) > > ... then again, we need to get more people to a meet, and at a location > where it's possible to give a half decent talk and demo ... > > Gordon > I agree, I am working on something not quite lug related at the moment, If what I want to do / have suggested is approved then I may be able to get a decent venue at some point. Paul -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq