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Just seen on westcountry news about budget cuts and that there will be a related public consultation could people keep an eye out for details perhaps post here, so people can respond. I know we are up against it, but it's worth a try and there are links to successful adoptions of open source ( I am NOT talking about Linux desktops here) just adopting OSS where it could save money. Lets at least try and keep trying and not be silent, otherwise someone will suggest job cuts and it could be YOUR department and YOUR job they suggest for the axe. Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq