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I was after some quick advice, googling gets confusing very fast, especially trying to compare the Toshiba as it seems to have a huge number of variations. I basically have a choice of two laptops Samsung R519 Celeron dual core T3100 1.90Ghz * Windows 7 Professional * 15.6" LED super bright display * 1GB memory * 160GB hard drive * Intel GMA X4500M DVMT graphics chip * DVD reader/writer * 3-in-1 media card adaptor * Integrated web cam * WiFi Toshiba L450D AMD SEMPRON 2.1GHZ * Windows 7 Professional * 15.6" TruBrite display * 1GB memory * 160GB hard drive * ATI Radeonâ HD 3200 graphics chip * DVD reader/writer * 4-in-1 media card adaptor * Integrated web cam * WiFi Would the Toshiba be capable of gaming on, in particular World of Warcraft. The CPU speed on it is higher, but its only single core I think? Would the dual core celeron of the Samsung make up for the intel graphics? Other uses of the machine would be a small amount of video editing, probably photoshop and general purpose. Its primary role would be for use by one of the kids when the other machine is in use. At the moment I am leaning towards the Samsung as I thought the dual core would be snappier and I suspect the Toshiba's ATI card might be too lowly to cope with gaming, even something a few years old like WoW. -- John Williams My linux blog of notes and guides http://subbass.blogspot.com/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html