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On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 09:49:09PM +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Simon Waters wrote: > > Except that they don't need a signature these days. Merely knowing > the sort code & account number is more than enough... > It is not cost effective for banks to verify signatures for small amounts. But if you set up a direct debt verbally and received the goods how do you prove that you did not set the DD up? > Of-course the DD guarnatee sort of stops people doing it > maliciously, but... > The other related issue is that of ID theft. If "they" know - Where you live - Your bank details - Your social history (family names, birthdays etc) (and as most people have simple passwords based on these) Then stealing the id is much easier http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/section/identity_fraud.htm http://www.cifas.org.uk/default.asp?edit_id=561-56 If you are careful, check your credit histories, check your statements, change default passwords etc etc then the downside is minimal. And because you would catch the event quickly I doubt there would be any harm. But I doubt anyone can defend against a serious attack from people who are prepared to spend money to learn about you. But why would anyone spend serious time and money to do that to a normal citizen? If you are famous or infamous or a "target", yes http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/privacy On the other hand if you are dealing with a casual crime then Two campers are walking through the forest when they suddenly encounter a grizzly bear. The bear rears up on his hind legs and lets out a terrifying roar. Both campers are frozen in their tracks. The first camper whispers, "I'm sure glad I wore my running shoes today." "It doesn't matter what kind of shoes you're wearing, you're not gonna outrun that bear," replies the second. "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun YOU," he answers. -- Henry Photocopies or faxes of my signature are not binding. This email has been signed with an electronic signature in accordance with subsection 7(3) of the Electronic Communications Act 2000. Digital Key Signature: GPG RSA 0xFB447AA1 Sun Jan 10 07:34:23 GMT 2010
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