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most phone numbers are trivial to find using something called the telephone book! Other details using the electoral register. OK you can be x directory and you can opt out of the electoral register published info, more useful is the "Telephone Preference Scheme", sign up on-line, which makes cold calling by EEC companies illegal. I really don't understand why people are so paranoid about easy to find public info being easy to find public info. OK if your bank and credit card details are out there, that is serious stuff. But the rest of it, name, address, telephone etc. were easy to find before the "digital age". So I really don't understand why people are so worried about name, telephone and address info being out there As for e-mail addresses nothing hides these, spammers will find them through random generation etc.. I have an e-mail address I want people to contact. On my website you have to enter a CAPTURE code and the html is hidden via encryption. But other sites promoting Devon holiday homes don't do this. I have no control and spam is the result. This is better than being invisible. My ISP filters out 100's of messages a day, then the filters I've put in to my e-mail client get rid of 50-100. So I end up with 10 to delete. Not being visible in any way is like wanting to live in a house with no name/number on a street with no name in a town with no name and postcode. Having these details public is necessary, if you want mail delivered, junk mail is something we have to live with. So never let any details out about yourself unless one day you might want to make contact with other people.... My bank account number is 094527 05285398, HSBC, please feel free to transfer money......... On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 10:44 +0000, james kilty wrote: > On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 06:42 +0000, bas wrote: > > On 01/06/2010 09:14 PM, james kilty wrote: > > >> Don't ever, ever post it to anything, anywhere that you might think is > > >> > remotely public... Phone numbers in particular (Trev, yours is all over > > >> > some boating forums and trivial to find via google), > > >> > > > I searched pipl.com for my name and one entry had address and phone > > > number! one of my email addresses was there too. > > > James > > > -- james kilty > > blimey, that pipl.com is a little scarey ! > But it's good for finding people. There are others that harvest from > social networks as well. The crooks who assemble personal data for > misuse can have a field day if we are not careful. I don't put my d.o.b. > anywhere public, and my web sites and phone book also provide what's on > pipl.com. Ditto when I chat about ancestors and family tree - no > d.o.b.s. > > James > -- > james kilty > http://www.kilty.demon.co.uk > > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html