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On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 15:06 +0100, Grant wrote: > <4A4B1B0D.4070503@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <c25e7758f9c3f56d68eed8e158fae324@localhost> > Message-ID: <97ebdaa428c88e0ecc86982ade280fb5@localhost> > X-Sender: dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Received: from host86-165-179-214.range86-165.btcentralplus.com > [86.165.179.214] with HTTP/1.1 (POST); Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:06:01 > +0100 > User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:35:41 +0100, Grant <dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:15:09 +0100, Simon Waters <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >> grant@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm not sure what's happened here, and I'm struggling to find > >>> anything relevant in the logs, but this morning I am getting SMTP 451 > >>> errors: "451 Temporary local problem - please try later" Well, I > >>> tried again later. And again. And again. Still getting the same > >>> issues. > >>> > >>> Curiously I can send mail successfully with the "mail" command, but > >>> telnetting to the SMTP service and going through things that way > >>> consistently produces these 451 errors. > >>> > >>> I have tried stopping and restarting the SMTP service to no avail. > >> > >> Some sort of temporary local problem ;) > >> > >> Possibly a problem with the DNS if you have some sort of check on > >> connecting boxes. > >> > >> Show us the logs produced. > >> > >> Are you sending, or delivering email to this server? > > > > Both, actually, but it seems to be the sending that's failing. > > > > The machine retrieves mail from a remote POP machine for each user (ie > me) > > and stores it in a local Maildir, then served up by IMAP. It accepts > > incoming connections on :25 for outgoing mail. > > > > I would include the logs but can't for the life of me find them! I know > > that sounds silly, but when checking all the logs' timestamps immediately > > after I get the 451 error, none of them seem to be any newer. Not > > /var/log/mail* or /var/log/exim4/*. > > > > WRT DNS issues - essentially there are no connecting boxes. Almost > > without > > exception the only machine I use to send email through this machine is my > > laptop, and even then I do so with SSH port forwarding - I have laptop:25 > > forwarded to server:25, so as far as Exim should be concerned, it is > > receiving SMTP traffic from itself. > > > > As I said above, curiously the mail command will send fine. (I'm sending > > this via my Roundcube webmail interface which uses PHPMAIL, so I'd expect > > it to work OK). > > > > Any thoughts? > > Anybody got any ideas? All the Googling I'm doing seems to be pretty > fruitless - "it's a temporary problem, try again later" syndrome. > > Grant. > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pi.a-squared.co.uk) by pi.a-squared.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) Total stab in the Dark.......... should you be using ehlo? Regards Kevin Lucas Minions Post Master(Sub) reprieved (possibly!) Po House, Minions, Liskeard Cornwall PL14 5LE 01579363386 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html