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<4A4B1B0D.4070503@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <c25e7758f9c3f56d68eed8e158fae324@localhost> Message-ID: <97ebdaa428c88e0ecc86982ade280fb5@localhost> X-Sender: dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from host86-165-179-214.range86-165.btcentralplus.com [86.165.179.214] with HTTP/1.1 (POST); Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:06:01 +0100 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:35:41 +0100, Grant <dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:15:09 +0100, Simon Waters <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> grant@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure what's happened here, and I'm struggling to find >>> anything relevant in the logs, but this morning I am getting SMTP 451 >>> errors: "451 Temporary local problem - please try later" Well, I >>> tried again later. And again. And again. Still getting the same >>> issues. >>> >>> Curiously I can send mail successfully with the "mail" command, but >>> telnetting to the SMTP service and going through things that way >>> consistently produces these 451 errors. >>> >>> I have tried stopping and restarting the SMTP service to no avail. >> >> Some sort of temporary local problem ;) >> >> Possibly a problem with the DNS if you have some sort of check on >> connecting boxes. >> >> Show us the logs produced. >> >> Are you sending, or delivering email to this server? > > Both, actually, but it seems to be the sending that's failing. > > The machine retrieves mail from a remote POP machine for each user (ie me) > and stores it in a local Maildir, then served up by IMAP. It accepts > incoming connections on :25 for outgoing mail. > > I would include the logs but can't for the life of me find them! I know > that sounds silly, but when checking all the logs' timestamps immediately > after I get the 451 error, none of them seem to be any newer. Not > /var/log/mail* or /var/log/exim4/*. > > WRT DNS issues - essentially there are no connecting boxes. Almost > without > exception the only machine I use to send email through this machine is my > laptop, and even then I do so with SSH port forwarding - I have laptop:25 > forwarded to server:25, so as far as Exim should be concerned, it is > receiving SMTP traffic from itself. > > As I said above, curiously the mail command will send fine. (I'm sending > this via my Roundcube webmail interface which uses PHPMAIL, so I'd expect > it to work OK). > > Any thoughts? Anybody got any ideas? All the Googling I'm doing seems to be pretty fruitless - "it's a temporary problem, try again later" syndrome. Grant. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html