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On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:39, james kilty wrote: ... > A Russian "cybermilitia" has knocked the central Asian country of > Kyrgyzstan off the Internet, a security researcher said today, > demonstrating that the hackers are able to respond even faster than ... The main problem with the internet is the deviation from the functional basic model to the old 'wired' network. Telephone providers have managed to buy into it and use their old 'non internet' technology. The result of this is when some fisherman hell bent on exterminating a fish species from the med drags up a cable half the internet goes down. Using 'internet technology' this would almost automatically start to instantly re-route and loss of service would be minimised. In the case of Kyrgyzstan a DOS from Russia could be partly solved by switching off the direct routes between the two countries. The rerouting of these attacks would upset the Russians off as much as the Kyrgysztans and any other country the re-routing went through - and it would not be 'ignored' as it is now. Another problem with the current internet arrangement is censorship for any reason. I'm not advocating child porn or anything like that but I see it as closing the barn door after the horse has bolted to the detriment of all. Many years ago there was a fairly active group doing point to point wireless connections to overcome the telephone providers deliberate dragging of feet. It might be worth resurrecting that completely decentralised approach - grid networking etc to prevent the million SPOF's that are built into the system at the moment. At least as a backup, and also to sent the message to others that the cat is out of the bag and it isnt going back in. Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html