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David Bell wrote: >> Was looking for that as well. In googling came across www.free-av.com >> (avira). Was recommended in pcpro > > ClamAV ? It's cross platform. Alas, it doesn't do access testing as far as I know. (Ie, running all the time and checking files as they are read, which is an essential method for internet connect winboxes) AVG has definately gone downhill with the latest version. The fuss on The Register about it checking all links is a serious negative imo (Open a page on Google and it will download every link in the background to check for malicious pages - making webstats and some forms of advertising pointless. Bandwidth quotas beware!), as well as it forcing an addon in IE and FF. The final nail for me was that it asked if it could install Yahoo Toolbar, which has had numerous allegations of being spyware itself as well as being adware rubbish. So useful that Yahoo pay software vendors to include it with their products. (I do, of course, appreciate AVG need to pay the bills, but their chosen approach is awful. "Nanny knows best, now shut up and eat your spyware.") I switched from that to Avira which is also not perfect. It throws up an annoying advert screen once a day and completely missed a very nasty virus on my system (In mitigation, the db was 2 days old and when updated it found it - but by then too late). I think it's better than AVG though. I have tried Avast but I forget why I didn't like it now. :( Maybe I'm expecting too much for free products, but when I look at Spamassassin and the amazing stuff that can do, and the hugely useful third party rulesets for it, I'm sad there isn't a Windows on-access scanner that's truly free and without intrusive measures (unless somebody knows different!). I guess that's mostly because it's a lot more difficult to reliably get detection signatures for viruses and trojans than for spam, and maybe that people who volunteer their coding services really don't want to endure the pain that is low-level windows programming. Of course, I use clamav on my mail server which stops the email bourne stuff very well, but with the huge increase in drive-by website infections email's no longer the main source of nasties. -- Simon Avery -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html