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On 17 Jan 2008, at 20:23, stinga wrote: > On 17/01/08 18:49:10, Clare Shepherd wrote: >> >> >> I don't post often, but since there are so few of us females, I >> couldn't let Stinga's sweeping generalisations go unanswered. I've >> always enjoyed his posts, but maybe his post exemplifies why there >> aren't more women using Linux, attending meetings or bothering with >> Open Office. I don't think I've read such ageist, misogynist tripe >> since the 60s. There maybe may be a grain of truth in that women >> aren't interested in the minutiae of what processor, how many cores >> etc. a particular pc or laptop may have. They just want to do stuff. >> But the analogy with cars is fatuous, I've driven all sorts of >> vehicles (including buses, 850cc motorcycles vans and several >> Jaguars, BMWs & Mercs) and driven for a living for a while, while >> studying for my accountancy exams, so don't give me (daughter of a >> mum who drove 8 wheel ambulances in the WAAF during the war) that >> women aren't interested in motors. It's just that guys have this way >> of excluding women and keeping the good stuff to themselves. Reading >> this sort of guff isn't going to encourage us either. >> Stinga said "Bottom line is 'I don't know'!", well you got that >> right. >> >>> and actually why would they, you only get 15 years and that's >>> it, to old to work after late 30's, everyone knows people older >> than >>> late 30's their brains turn to mush... look at managers :-) >> >> >> As an accounts manager of 25 years standing and now a 61 year old >> retiree, I feel you've now hit the jackpot. Are you really trying to >> >> alienate your whole audience? Today, I read some emails over >> breakfast, read a bit of my online readers' Group read , "War and >> Peace", drove to the Acorn Centre, played badminton for two hours, >> came home had lunch, read over some notes for my Geology meeting on >> Saturday, practised my bassoon for 45 minutes, went to the Library's >> readers group and shared in a discussion of Hemingway's "Old Man and >> the Sea"- not bad for a mush-minded old biddy. What did you today? >> >> Glad to have got this off my chest. Rant over. I'm sorry to have been >> >> so angry, but I am very disappointed that this is the level of >> discussion here. I expected a more intelligent approach from the >> membership to Viv's post >> In sorrow, >> Clare >> > > Sorry Clare, that it did not across as I wanted it to and I don't > think > I can put across in email. > > It wasn't meant to be ageist/sexist or anything 'ist'. > > My sincere apologies to you Clare and anyone else it offended, it > wasn't meant to. > > I thought I had covered my behind with the 'sweeping statement' > comment, it was all gross generalisations, but I thought we were > talking about generalizations, there are always exceptions and those > people are already using Linux, racing cars, sewing whatever. > > I wont add anymore or try to explain what I was trying to say since > that will just make a bigger hole for myself. > > My apologies again, it was not meant to offend. > > /me feeling quite sad, and wishing I hadn't replied with my > thoughts... > > -- > 'ooroo > > stinga...(:)-) > --------------------------------------------------- > Apology accepted Stinga, I understand completely that it's so easy to fire of an email and repent at leisure. Forget it. I was surprised, and if I'm honest a bit cross, but let's forget it. i never did think it was a malicious post, just not up to your usual standard. If I overreacted, I'm sorry too. Regards, Clare -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html