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On 17/01/08 18:49:10, Clare Shepherd wrote: > > > I don't post often, but since there are so few of us females, I > couldn't let Stinga's sweeping generalisations go unanswered. I've > always enjoyed his posts, but maybe his post exemplifies why there > aren't more women using Linux, attending meetings or bothering with > Open Office. I don't think I've read such ageist, misogynist tripe > since the 60s. There maybe may be a grain of truth in that women > aren't interested in the minutiae of what processor, how many cores > etc. a particular pc or laptop may have. They just want to do stuff. > But the analogy with cars is fatuous, I've driven all sorts of > vehicles (including buses, 850cc motorcycles vans and several > Jaguars, BMWs & Mercs) and driven for a living for a while, while > studying for my accountancy exams, so don't give me (daughter of a > mum who drove 8 wheel ambulances in the WAAF during the war) that > women aren't interested in motors. It's just that guys have this way > of excluding women and keeping the good stuff to themselves. Reading > this sort of guff isn't going to encourage us either. > Stinga said "Bottom line is 'I don't know'!", well you got that > right. > > > and actually why would they, you only get 15 years and that's > > it, to old to work after late 30's, everyone knows people older > than > > late 30's their brains turn to mush... look at managers :-) > > > As an accounts manager of 25 years standing and now a 61 year old > retiree, I feel you've now hit the jackpot. Are you really trying to > > alienate your whole audience? Today, I read some emails over > breakfast, read a bit of my online readers' Group read , "War and > Peace", drove to the Acorn Centre, played badminton for two hours, > came home had lunch, read over some notes for my Geology meeting on > Saturday, practised my bassoon for 45 minutes, went to the Library's > readers group and shared in a discussion of Hemingway's "Old Man and > the Sea"- not bad for a mush-minded old biddy. What did you today? > > Glad to have got this off my chest. Rant over. I'm sorry to have been > > so angry, but I am very disappointed that this is the level of > discussion here. I expected a more intelligent approach from the > membership to Viv's post > In sorrow, > Clare > Sorry Clare, that it did not across as I wanted it to and I don't think I can put across in email. It wasn't meant to be ageist/sexist or anything 'ist'. My sincere apologies to you Clare and anyone else it offended, it wasn't meant to. I thought I had covered my behind with the 'sweeping statement' comment, it was all gross generalisations, but I thought we were talking about generalizations, there are always exceptions and those people are already using Linux, racing cars, sewing whatever. I wont add anymore or try to explain what I was trying to say since that will just make a bigger hole for myself. My apologies again, it was not meant to offend. /me feeling quite sad, and wishing I hadn't replied with my thoughts... -- 'ooroo stinga...(:)-) --------------------------------------------------- Email: stinga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx o You need only two tools. o ///// A hammer and duct tape. If it /@ `\ /) ~ doesn't move and it should, > (O) X< ~ Fish!! use the hammer. If it moves and `\___/' \) ~ shouldn't, use the tape. \\\ --------------------------------------------------- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html