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Hi there. Following comments yesterday I have just downloaded ubuntu and been reading up on in on the web site. Now it seems plain ubuntu is gnome based,kubuntu kde based. Ok great I like KDE. My personal preferance. Might not be yours but hey,whatever. Only thing is; while I like KDE I do prefer evolution for mail. Not if I install ubuntu I presume that evolution as part of gnome will be included but then I have to download all of KDE afterwards. If I install kubuntu with the the desktop I prefer to start with what do I then need to do to get evolution working for mail ? Install gnome as well or just gnome libraries and evolution using apt ? Sorry for a basic question but I am used to an all in one distro that just includes everything. Ray. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html