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james kilty wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 13:22 +0100, Matt Lee wrote: > >> There are several good reasons to not promote Ubuntu to anyone. > > Please will you summarise them. Sure. Ubuntu:- * Promotes proprietary software * Distributes proprietary software * Is planning to ship with binary drivers turned on by default * Believes more in market share than in the free software community * Is joining forcing with Linspire to make proprietary codecs available In short, I would recommend if you want something that works well like Ubuntu, that you try gNewSense. http://www.gnewsense.org/ - it is based on Ubuntu Dapper LTS, so if you're running Edgy you'll find it has some slightly older versions of some stuff, but ultimately you should find it works in much the same way, also you'd be using a distribution that stands up for your rights, believes in software freedom and does none of the things Ubuntu does. I also now expect all the Ubuntu-fanbois to leap on me and say 'OMFG[1], there's nothing wrong with Flash' - I ask this, when did convenience become such an obsession? More people should stand up for their freedoms and refuse to accept proprietary software on their computers at all. This is the only way we can show the hardware manufacturers that freedom is important. To merely accept their proprietary drivers now and hope they later decide to produce free drivers when there's no obvious need for them in ridiculous. matt [1] "Oh Matt, for goodnesssakes!" -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html