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Hi I am running Ubuntu also (on my Lappy). I have a question about packages and package management. Am I right in thinking there is a file somewhere which contains all the details. On top of that sits dpkg, on that apt, on that aptitude and in Ubuntu's case on top of that Add/Remove. Further though I have not done this, when downloading something which is not in any of "my" Repositories into any other area than my own home directory I should use something like alien as this also updates the said file. (How I do this in the case of Suns Java I dont know?, it just sort of put itself into usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_10/) Peter -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html