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Hmm, i've not, no. To my mind it has always fallen into the category of "not mainstream" (maybe that's not the best way to describe how i've always looked on perl, but it's close enough) and has therefore passed me by. Although before anyone jumps on me for that, i DO now know this to not be the case, but our paths have still not crossed. What languages i get into has always to date been dictated by what i am asked to do in my job. Your post highlights very well i think the differences between self taught / driven by what i need to know only and uni taught (sometimes i really wish i HAD gone to uni!). SOAP i've heard of but haven't a clue! But, nope, WSDL, Class::DBI, Template Toolkit? Hmm, straight over my head :O) Can they be converted to PDF?? - LOL!! As an aside, i came across a post on a forum somewhere about the lack of a "delete mail from server when removed from trash" in kmail yesterday. In this post it went into pretty good detail about what would need to be done to what sections of the code to implement it, but the developers efforts are elsewhere at the moment. Since my ISP doesn't offer IMAP, yet i really do like the integration of anti-virus and anti-spam in the recent kmail, i am currently trying to find that post again and print it off. I know LOTS of people would love this feature and i just checked and it's NOT been put into the new KDE3.4/KMail 1.8 release. Maybe, just maybe, with the assistance of that mail it's something i could look into... Cheers, Martin. PS: Just found out i have £250 coming my way this week so maybe that faster PC is just one step closer :o) On Monday 21 March 2005 13:18, Aaron Trevena wrote:
Have you looked at Perl? Perl is one of the more practical UNIX languages, you can use it for shells scripts as well as webby stuff (Catalyst and Maypole provide impressive MVC to rival anything Ruby and Java offer) and also GUI and batch processing. I've been using perl since uni (around 1999) for everything from simple scripts to full scale internet applications, many of which have 0% HTML/CGI. Currently I'm programming a mix of 70% perl, 20% ASP, 5% .Net/C#/mono, 5% PHP and I'll be glad if I never see another line of vbscript or php. mono/.net has some quite cool tools, but can be a real pig to track errors and 95% of people who use it rely on click-n-drool generators and autocompletion. My latest project has been to implement webservices from a linux/apache/mod_perl server to a win32/delphi client. SOAP and WSDL have a lot to answer for, each client (perl, c#. delphi, java) has a different intepretation of what to send the server from the same WSDL. Anyway - back to perl. If you are working on *nix (or even doze) it is essential that you add some perl to your toolkit - its especially useful for system integration and testing, its also handy for prototyping classes and designs that will later be implemented in more picky languages. Which brings me on to D and C perl mongers - anything happening anytime soon - any other perl coders down this way? Is it worth getting some of the upcountry perl mongers to come down and give some talks? I'd happily give a talk on something like Class::DBI, Template Toolkit or SOAP. Cheers, A. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html
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