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Evening All,occasionally whilst listening to the odd bit of music or for that matter playing a game i get a nasty crash sound loops like a stuck record, screen freezes no mouse movement etc, and keyboard totally locks eg num lock frozen ctrl-alt backspace /ctrl-alt delete have no effect. Arts is disabled as this is troublesome with certain apps i use. running suse 8.2 at the moment with deflt suse kernel 2.4.20. Question is which logs if any could give me a clue as to what errant process is causing the problem. Its very random and is a minor irritation but is annoying because i can't recover from it and it results in a hard reset which is rather unhealthy to say the least. It happens in a variety of applications and does not seem to have an obvious pattern. Just wonder where would be a good place to start investigating the cause to try and resolve the cause. Thought of a soundcard/alsa snag so tried both a C-media chipped card and a SB 4.1 pci card results are similar. Any thoughts people? Cheers, Lee -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.