Re: [LUG] Permission Trouble Again

[Rick Timmis <Rick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for that one Tom.

We don't really use knoqueror for file creation, but during my testing 
process for permissions set on newly created files a right click  in the 
Directory view seemed a good way to do things, however this just added 
more mud to the water. I am still lost with the Open Office permissions 
settings. I will have to do some more work on this one

Thanks Rick

Tom Glare wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Rick Timmis wrote:
>
>  
>
> > Here's a thing.
> >
> > I had some trouble a while ago, users of the system were creating files 
> > with rw-r-r permission and Owner <userid> Group USERS. What was required 
> > was rw-rw-r permissions for file created in the shared directory. It 
> > transpired that the .bash_profile had a line umask 0000 I hashed this 
> > out and made sure that the .bash_rc file contained the line umask 002. 
> > Thinking that this was the matter dealt with I left it.
> >
> >
> > Well it's reared its ugly head again. If when using Konqueror I create a 
> > new file in the shared directory the new file gets rw-r-r persmission 
> > Instead of the permissions set by the users umask setting. on top of 
> > this the file is given a creation date of 14 July 2000 ( Scratches head 
> > in amazement).
> >
> > Any idea why Konqueror should set rw-r-r permissions with 14 July 2000 
> > creation date, which overrules the under lying bash_profile settings of 
> > the user ?? - Further to this it seems Konqeuror creates files with  the 
> > following creation dates and times
> >
> > Illustrator files - 29-08-2001 10.33 am
> > HTML file       - 09-05-2000 12:37 am
> > TXT Files         - 14-07-2000 12:19 am
> >
> > Very Weird.
> >
> > Next up Open Office, openoffice creates files with the following rw-rw-r 
> > permissions, but instead of assigning Owner <userid> Group USER it 
> > assigns the files Owner <userid>  Group <userid>, Even though the GID 
> > bit is set in the parent directory. thus anyone creating new OO files in 
> > the shared directory actually creates them Writeable by themselves only. 
> > (Further Confusion )
> >
> > As stated bash-rc dictates umask 002 which should give rw-rw-r, When I 
> > touch a file it creates it with the correct permissions. At this point I 
> > put my head in my hands and started compose mail
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas please
> >
> > Thansks Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> konqueror appears to be overriding umask settings when it creates files
> because in all likelihood it ISN'T actually creating files - instead it is
> copying them from templates. Change the permissions on files in
> /usr/share/templates/.source and all should be well. It would be nice if
> you could configure konqueror to emulate "normal" file creation and
> respect umask settings - perhaps someone knows a way ? This is the sort of
> thing that makes me remain a "Command Line Colin" much of the time - you
> spend ages learning the rules, then these new desktop environments decide
> to stamp their own way of doing things over the top of it.
>
> Tom.
>
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