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I wasn't really editing any config files I was in the KDE GUI and looking to see if there were any settings I could change to affect what each user can see on their Red Hat menu and to see if I could give my user account a "Shutdown Computer" option like the root account had instead of just log off. I don't usually make a habit of logging in as root, I always use my own user account. The data is not all that important, the only thing I would miss is my linmodem driver (it took me ages to find) which is in a tar file somewhere in /home/username. I tried using the upgrade option after booting from redhat installation CD but it had no effect. Trying to enter rescue mode from the installation CD gives me a couple of white vertical lines which shift to random positions on the screen every 2 seconds or so. Strangely enough I had this come up when I was installing redhat??? When I was installing redhat for the first time I just pressed enter at the first screen it came up with a totally blue screen with a black strip down the right hand side. I figured out that I could get to a point where I could actually see meaningful things by pressing tab, enter and skipping past what I later (when installing on a PC I built) discovered was the md5 checksum varification stage. After pressing tab enter I got the vertical stripes here before the cursor appeared in the UI. MORE INFO ON PROBLEM using "ls -ld /bin" at the shell i get "drwx-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 24 15:19 /bin" using "ls -ld /" at the shell i get "drwx-xr-x 19 root root 4096 Jul 21 10:24 /bin" I have only been using the Red Hat GUI I haven't used any chmod's cannot post /etc/fstab file as permission is denied and I only used root before now temporarally to: allow user to activate modem build my linmodem drivers access grub.conf (the short timeout was annoying me) This is the complete error message: -------------------------------------------------------------------- /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 84: /bin/grep: Permission Denied Configuring kernel parameters: Error: /proc must be mounted To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like: /proc /proc proc defaults In the meantime, mount /proc /proc -t proc /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1: /bin/awk: Permission Denied Your system appears to have shut down uncleanly Press Y within 3 seconds to force file system integrity check...y /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1: /bin/awk: Permission Denied Checking root filesystem Couldn't open /proc/partitions: No such file or directory Is /proc mounted? *** An error occurred during the file system check. *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot *** when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance -------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.