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HI having just copied a few episodes of "star trek new voyages" to a dvd, I tried to have a go at playing back the video (avi) windows media player opens and decides by some weird logic to play it as an audio file complete with the effects, giving up i switched over to Linux and played the file on the portable hdd, through movie player and it works. Upon loading in to media player on Windows it seemed to suggest it was going to download the required files to play it, lol anyway season 4 episodes 1,2, and 4 - 6 (i am working on ep 3) are now on dvd. :) Why is it windows does stupid things. Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq