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Best suggestion I can give, is to check the exchange... AND phone the ISP(s). A couple of sites to help with checking your exchange: https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search http://www.telephone-exchange.co.uk/test.php?TelNo=0 In my case these listed my exchange as having fibre waaaay before the ISP confirmed that I could actually get it (as a product). And no-one should be paying for 2x ISPs (unless you have 2 lines of course...) -----Original Message----- From: list [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint Sent: 05 February 2016 10:07 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Sarah Croft Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem asking for my sister , can she get fibre for the youth group she works for in Buckfastleigh still working on getting the existing isp's (for some reason they paying for 2 isp). sarah - Sarah Croft <scroft20@xxxxxxxxx> mark On 5 February 2016 at 09:30, Joseph Bennie <jay@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 5 Feb 2016, at 09:02, Tremayne, Steve > <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > OK, thanks â good to know. > > This is where I now reveal my slight naivety to fibre broadbandâ if my > supplier is non-BT (say, Zenâ if only I could afford itâ), then do I > still get BT equipment supplied? > > > > It depends on the local network and if your getting FTTP or FTTC, > > If FTTP (fiber to the premises) like me I'd assume yes the device on > the wall will be BT and is the modern equivalent to the RJ11 jack box. > but its a fully digital device with 2 RJ11 and one RJ45. The RJ11's > have vop phone numbers but using conventional phones or pbax. > > If FTTC (fiber to the cabinet) you'll just use a standard vsdl/adsl > modem and have a modified RJ11 jack box with a specialised filter > installed, in which case you can plug the draytek in directly as it > can replace the ISP plastic. > > VSDL and ADSL essentially work in the same way from a consumer POV. > > > > My original reason for going with a Draytek router (years ago), was > due to ISP provided ADSL routers, which are similar to the plastic > toys that came in breakfast cereals ;) > > > :) agreed, however current BT devices will be significantly quicker > than the older draytek, The BT and virgin devices are designed for > 300-900mbps throughputs. where are the draytek will be around > 20-40mbps througput. (as will some cheaper home/soho products think > sub 100 ) > > Note: throughput is the speed it can internally process data, not the > speed on the wire. > > > So â my current ISP (Plusnet) are offering a free âmagic boxâ â Iâm > presuming that is a VDSL router â OR â is it a simple router and I > would still have the BT white box? > > > > it will depend on if its FTTP or FTTC , I'm guessing it will be FTTC > :( > > > Concerning the âstock BT Black Modemâ you mention â is that referring > to an additional BT router? From my previous attempts at setting up > DDNS, port forwarding, VPNs and other functions in the past â Iâve > never got on with the BT equipmentâ againâ switching to something else was always > preferable. > > > > you can rethink that. but again their devices are heavily modified to > keep the consumer end simple. That said the complexity of the setup > when using other devices means you really do need to know what to do. Its a trade > off. > > But, Iâm all earsâ > > > > My gut is alway work directly with BT or Virgin, while BT can be > incredibly slow at getting the install done, both just work once there are done. > > Unless you have bad copper between the box in the road and the house. > ... in which case consider having it replaced. > > > From: list [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph > Bennie > Sent: 05 February 2016 08:54 > To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem > > Bt will supply a white box fixed to the wall with a battery backup. > Its a simple fiber to ethernet bridge > > The output from that box is tcp/ip ethernet - connect to it and set up > you pppoe connection. > > > If using static ranges: > I strongly suggest using the stock BT Black Modem as the ip forwarding > is a total pain and the stock routers have all the difficult stuff per > configured. > All you need to do is connect to the 1gb port on the router and assign > the static to your pfsence, and all an allow all all rule to the bt firewall. > > if only using the dynamic ip, or a single static: > Connect the pfsence directly and configure pppoe on the pfSense. > > > > > On 5 Feb 2016, at 08:13, Tremayne, Steve > <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > OK, so, my exchange is now joining the fibre-enabled world and Iâd > like to skip the router/modem and make better use of my pfSense > firewall by connecting it to the fibre directly â via a VDSL Modem. > > OK, I know itâs a BSD device, but itâs almost Linux :) > > Iâm a big fan of Draytek for their router/modems â but as Iâve seen > some good *DSL advise on this forum, I thought Iâd see what opinions > there were about VDSL modemsâ any recommendations? Anything to avoid? > > If the finances can afford it, Iâd like to go for the 80Mb line â > basically so that I get a better upload rate whilst Iâm working away > from home (all too often at the moment) â so Iâm guessing that the > throughput can be an issue with these things? > > Any other advice? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq