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Hi, apologies for delay on this, but have reinstated the website after the events at the start of the week. I have downgraded all accounts except Paul's and my own. This is purely precautionary. I have applied evil propriety 2nd factor plugin, until I can find a suitable free software based plugin or service for same (sorry pure laziness on my part, as they can't be hard to write). I need to instate a better backup regime (for which I need to replace the machine that was doing it, which developed a fault start of the week). Simon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq