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On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:39:55 +0100
Simon Avery <digdilem@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Simon,
{google}
>It is worrying how much they know about them, and how much *everyone*
>relies on them. You'll struggle to avoid their reach even if you try,
>however.
I know. I don't have to make it easy for them though. I don't allow
for any cookies from them and I use their search engine via startpage.
Both of which make it (perhaps only slightly) harder for them to keep
tabs on me. I also, if possible, don't buy from places that use
google's checkout.
>I'm a big fan of google. I think they're honestly far more ethical than
They're the same as any other business; There to make money. All other
considerations are lower priority. Including legality. As VW, Audi,
Mercedes-Benz et al, will (now, at least) attest.
>> For Neil's use case, that's a major cause for concern. Oh, and their
>> DMARC policy is boorish, forcing many mailing lists to make large
>> scale changes to accommodate them.
>Agree. Some complain of google silently dropping inbound mail too. I
>have some sympathy for big email providers though, the amount of
>attacks they get is tiresome.
That's true, but to force volunteers, and let's face it, most mailing
lists are run by volunteers, to do the work for them isn't, IMO,
ethical. It's also no coincidence that all the companies that have that
DMARC p=reject policy (google, aol, yahoo, et al) are also tarred with
"spammers haven" brush. In the case of google, perhaps it's not as well
deserved as is the case for the others, but a bad rep is hard to kill.
>I don't like it when people compare Google to Microsoft. They are
I wasn't comparing google to microsoft. I was saying that as hotmail is
run my microsoft, that's problem enough. I didn't express it clearly,
obviously.
>completely different in pretty much every aspect of their business
>models, actions, transparency and ethics.
I don't know for certain, but my gut feeling is that even google's
transparency is, partly at least, illusory.
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