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On 21 Aug 2015, at 12:07, Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > There was something about this a while back or related. Lenovo had > installed spyware or other malaware on the actual computers. > > I guess as they got caught out and decided to find some other tactic > > There was also a report that their sales are down, this is usually > attributed to people using phones and tablets more, however after > reports such as this, perhaps we should read in to that differently, > The original exposure damaged their reputation, so is it any wonder > that people don't trust them, or may not trust them, perhaps people > are starting to wise up, esp after what Snowden revealed about mass > surveillance. > no it was different - it was some userland cr-app that did something with about a security proxy of some kind, but it actually just relayed your details. something fish > Paul > > > > On 21/08/15 09:12, Julian Hall wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Received this from a friend. >> >> Julian >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: HP and Lenovo caught >> installing malware in the BIOS Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:53:36 >> +0100 >> >> So it can't be removed even by reformatting your hard drive... >> >> Apparently this was mandated by Microsoft... >> >> I always said that UEFI was a thoroughly bad concept as it allows >> individual OEMs (as well as hackers and spies) to install >> non-removable crapware. >> >> The bottom line is that you're much better off with old machines >> with a traditional BIOS. UEFI is just a hacker's paradise :( >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nasty/ >> >> Fortunately, this time it only affects systems running Windows 8 >> or above. Windows 7 and Linux are unaffected as the malware is run >> from the Windows stack, but they could have just as easily run it >> from the UEFI itself and then it would be cross-platform :( >> >> Lenovo have released an updated firmware patch that (allegedly) >> removes this. >> >> This seems to be a feature of Windows 8 OEM machines (desktops as >> well as laptops), not specific to Lenovo or HP (They were just the >> ones where it was discovered first) >> >> Not sure if it exists in the UEFI of OEM motherboards - that would >> seem unlikely, but you never know. >> >> -- >> >> All government snoopers have very small penises >> >> >> >> >> >> > > - -- > http://www.zleap.net @zleap14 > @zleap14 diaspora : zleap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Documentation lead @ ToriOS http://www.torios.org > > Torbay Tech Jam http://torbaytechjam.org.uk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iEYEARECAAYFAlXXBooACgkQaggq1k2FJq139ACfYmcgw0tXaRSUH1rnl7aIRoys > ydwAniL3Sa0rar5vizM0nNbgCCEzCfgA > =Vzao > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq