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On 25/07/14 14:38, bad apple wrote: > > Windows? But probably not, as MS at least listen to giant corporations > and big enterprise partners/resellers, and even the general public if > they make enough of a fuss (witness the return of the start menu in win9 > and the taming of TIFKAM). In all fairness even magazines were prompted to run usability tests of TIFKAM and it failed. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/26/civilians_test_windows_8/ I know you got upset with it was mentioned here, but when faced to hack on it, I poked it to be a bit more sane (e.g. not display the home page I never ever use, Windows took a dislike to something a short while later, and have since had to have my profile, and then the whole install replaced, and I haven't poked it again because life is too short to be fixing broken defaults repeatedly (Bad enough it seems to forget the clearly expressed preference for a GB Locale settings EVERY TIME I login, although why the system default is US is another question entirely). We've just put in a change to put an Ubuntu box in we can use instead. > So, Mac OS X then. Because Apple listen to absolutely nobody, ever. Don't even get me started. On the other hand Ubuntu have reimplemented the system preference experience for Mac OSX in Ubuntu, and done a far better job. Mostly by not changing as much from the original X and Unix, and not introducing totally messed up components like the "File Open Dialog" or "Finder". Apple do a lot of things right, but design of the UI they don't have a clue, and they use to be so good. They also need to fix the lame delegations on nserver5 ;) But most annoying of all with Apple is their own keyboard, really? It doesn't fix ANY of the issues with PC 105 International keyboards (Caps Locks), introduced its own issues ("#" anyone, got hash, okay try it with Microsoft's RDP, and all the US style mapping for '~|"@'), and locking the screen doesn't mean I've unplugged my USB PC 105 keyboard (Okay probably not Apple's fault that one, just my failed workaround for their keyboard weirdness). This combination of proprietary-mess had me cutting and pasting "#" the other day to comment some code, because I couldn't persuade the remote Linux device at the far end that I was pressing the right magic key combination at my end. It was like the 1990s and programming the Met Office Cray from IBM terminals without square brackets on the keyboards, you'd be amazed how bad some of the Bourne/Korn shell scripts were if you make typing "[" or "]" require people to remember the EBCDIC hex codes and how to enter them. Eventually we ran emulators on the PCs and that sorted the weird IBM keyboards from the year dot. We have a similar plan to make it GNU/Linux all the way through. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq