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On 23/06/14 19:09, Eion MacDonald wrote: > Dear folk, > The heat problem may be problem with intermittent fan use. > I have one old machine with two hard discs one Windows Vista one OpenSUSE. > On Vista fan always starts and keeps going. No shut down problem, > except when doing a windows monthly update, when it might cut out, > let cool and restart. > On OpenSUSE the machine starts, the fan does not start, (reason > unknown) and machine goes into constant re boot mode, each boot > cutting out shortly after starting. However start and but run > 'vigorously' to well overheat, machine cuts out, than a restart under > OpenSUSE the fan cuts in at start and keeps going. No problem thereafter. > I have cleaned machine, replaced fan , but not replaced the thermal paste. > This may give you ideas. Is there any particular reason why this machine isn't in the bin? I'm a pretty rabid computer recycler, inveterate stock piler of old gear and hopeless hoarder and even so, that machine would last about 5 seconds in my mitts. There comes a point when you just have to toss that old crap in the trash, especially when a brand new SoC (Pi, Beagle, Android USB "pc-on-a-stick", etc) or bog standard bare bones all-in-one x86 board (AMD Geode, etc) would not only cost a mere few quid but probably pay for itself in electricity savings within the year and would still actually be *faster*... Also you have no idea how lucky you are that you can let Windows fail (I presume by this you mean literally hit the thermal caps and shut down instantly) a monthly patch Tuesday roll-up marathon right in the middle and then apparently pick right up where it left off and not have a completely destroyed environment. I've seen laptops run out of battery half way through a windows update run and never recover. It sounds like your Vista box has survived numerous of these normally fatal events, god only knows how! Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq