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On 04/06/14 21:04, Paul Sutton wrote: > > Hi > > Firstly I would like to say a BIG THANK YOU to Gordon for hosting the site, > > to try and answer a few questions > > I maintain the site at dcglug.drogon.net I went with that as a solution > as the site at dcglug.org.uk was old, didn't exactly look very good > with 2 navigation menus, and my request for help to get a new theme > installed etc was met with little enthusiam for change. I also stuggled > a bt with drupal, no one else could be bothered to log in and add stuff, > > In the time since then I believe I have offered accounts on numerous > occasions and this has fallen on deaf ears, I am happy for people to > share the load of adding fresh content, I have also done A HELL OF A > LOT OF WORK on this website so I would perhaps appreciate some > appreciation for what I have done please. > > I DO NOT have the expertise to transfer the data on the website to > dcglug.org.uk, Simon has the access to the dcglug.org.uk site, but he > has said he is VERY BUSY when last asked at exeter lug meets, so > decided not to keep asking. So i will leave the transfer of data to the > experts. > > In addition to maintaining the website as best as I can, adding new > pages, how to on how to connect to the irc channel, and a few other > topics no one else here seems that interested. I just want something I > can point people to for info on Pi jams, I > > I currently try to : > > keep the meetings page up to date, so adding meeting dates (ok torbay > is now a pi jam) > I have offered the organisers of the other meets the rights to add the > info them selves but again this seems to fall on deaf ears so I end up > trying to do that too > > I have also arranged the Torbay Pi jam. with help from Tom Brough and > Gordon Henderson, the attendance here is LOW but we are building up > slowly, what we want is to have a forum so people can find other users > for help etc, to appeal to anyone the site has to look good. I am NOT > web designer, so please do not whine about how it looks, I am doing the > best I can > > All this is being done on a voluntary basis, in the case of the Pi jams > myself, gordon and tom find the money to pay the insurance to cover the > cost of the Jams, yes we have to pay this FROM OUR OWN FUNDS > > > > I agree the situation is not ideal, but there is constant talk about > what could be better but NO ONE OFFERS TO do it, we all have e-mail it > is not hard to send me and gordon and e-mail suggesting domain > redirects, or suggesting we move the content to the old hosting, but no > one has, just talked about it. So iam just doing what I can to maintain > it, if I didn't no one else does. > > I have stopped adding stuff to the twitter account as I cannot do > EVERYTHING, so that is sitting there not being used, (which makes the > lug look rather out dated, people expect social media presence) i guess > the same for the facebook group, those on those services can get the > password to the account ( I have the twitter one) and start posting when > meetings are on etc. if people want to use some other resource then are > they volunteering to perhaps help maintain that. > > there were 200 + people on the lug, we have asked for more people to > step up and help, but get shot down, so we no longer bother, i know > people are doing other projects but your expertise is valuable,. told to > shut up, so > > We need people to help spread the load, the current dcglug.drogon,net > website to me looks good, it has the info people need and maybe does > need a bit of a touch up, but I can only do what I can. > > Ok so perhaps someone somewhere can work with me and gordon to work out > a way to transfer the data accross, do we really need the current > content on dcglug.org.uk, NO its out of date, > > I will leave this data transfer thing in the hands of others, however I > am happy with the way it is the site works, and its not too hard to > give people dcglug.drogon.net maybe in the short term the domain can > point there. > > Again to say THANK YOU to those people who are DOING something. > > regards > > Paul > > > > On 04/06/14 15:58, Gordon Henderson wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Is there any reason we can't use the perfectly good domain name > >> dcglug.org.uk for the lug website - much as I like my retro 90's > >> internet sometimes, having it as a subdomain of somebody's personal > >> hosting looks pretty lame these days :( > > > That somebody is of-course me. It's quite obvious, so do use my name. > Also drogon.net is my "professional" domain name, it's not really a > personal hosting system, although I do use it to host some of my hobby > sites. (one of which now generates more income than my main one oddly > enough!) > > > However, please feel free to take over hosting and on-going website > update and maintenance. > > > ... Is the usual cry you'll hear. > > > What it boils down it is the person(s) who wants to maintain the > website are more familiar with Wordpress than the Drupal (I think) that > the existing site is on, so I offered some space on one of my commercial > servers for it with the intention that in-time the original domain would > be pointed to it. > > > That hasn't happened yet. > > > (And no, I'm not the one maintaining it, I don't care either way, I > just provided the hosting when others called for a change) > > > Gordon > > > > I write very rarely in this mailgroup now (used to be more regular contributor), because I know the likely outcome of my posts ... HOWEVER ..... I would also like to add my thanks and appreciation to Paul for his efforts and to Gordon for providing hosting (FREE OF CHARGE). Thanks also to DanS, Mark Evans and Raymond who turn up regularly to the Pi Jams even though they have relied on Public Transport to get them to the Paignton Jams, which anyone who lives in Devon will know is quite a feet on a "normal" day yet alone when coastline railways get battered to death by winter storms. It is a pity there are not others willing to step up and put in as much effort as these people have (especially Paul). And I know its been particularly tough for Paul, constantly asking for help and getting rebuffed in the mail group (shame on you). How Paul has kept his sanity, strength and dignity over these past years, I have no idea, but it is a credit to his good nature that he struggles on. We all feel that its important to nurture the next generation of computer scientists, but sadly I could not recommend any under 18 to join this group for fear of what they would get in reply to perfectly innocent questions. You have to have a thick skin and a strong stomach to post anything here, (and I have neither in enough quantity). If it where not for Paul, I would not be regularly attending Pi Jams and doing what I can to help and contribute, I would have given up in frustration at the lack of support from this community. In fact I would have probably cancelled my subscription to this very mail group forum as well. Yours Tom. |
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