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Paul, Picking up on your comments on ToriOS, I thought I'd have a look at it, but there's no ISO to play with I quite like Bodhi Linux (http://bodhilinux.com/ ) which is another "cutdownBuntu", with hardly any pre-installed app, and with Enlightenment rather than Gnome / KDE / XFCE / LXDE... I notice on the ToriOS site that they're trying to merge other likeminded distros - perhaps Bodhi and ToriOS have something in common? Steve -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq