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On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:28:35PM +0000, Philip Hudson wrote: > Five IT giants make their first ever joint political statement against > (sort-of) surveillance. By the state. Not by them. Actually, there were eight of them - Microsoft was one of the signatories too: http://www.businessinsider.com/tech-companies-demand-changes-to-spying-2013-12 As for the federal judge ruling bulk metadata collection unconstitutional, a collegue of his disagrees: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/judge-upholds-nsa-spying/ Perhaps among the many secret programs the NSA has, there is one called 'SCHRODINGER'? In any case, let's not forget that 2013 was a great year for privacy. Martijn. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq