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On 20/12/13 19:56, Simon Waters wrote: > Systems didn't enable sudo by default in the past. root had to add users and > commands to make it happen. OpenBSD still does this by the way: you can create a new user during the install, but it won't be granted any privileges beyond normal user rights. After your first reboot, the very first thing to do is still login as root, cvs the ports tree and fetch/build/install your favourite shell and sudo, and then grant yourself escalation rights as appropriate (I still favour the %wheel group personally, as you say, for historical reasons). I know people feel differently here on the list, but I personally *NEVER* use root, ever (except for the obvious and highly specialised exception above). On every UNIX system I've ever looked after, I prefer to use a privileged account and operate via sudo, pfexec or whatever rights-granting system is in place. My logs stay nice and clean that way, the way I like them. In fact, a root login of any kind on my systems triggers the alerts immediately! Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq