Re: [LUG] OT: MS evil WSTOTC

They have won, and by "they" I *don't* mean AQ.

Two really simple soundbites that should set anyone straight: "Terrorism is the weapon of the weak" and "Refuse to be terrorised".

After that, you can try pointing out that undemocratic and anti-democratic states, and those tending in that direction, use terrorist attacks to seek greater control, restriction and power over their real and unchanging enemy: the people. The excuse is always seized by the state to take back as much as it can of the freedom our forebears managed to wrest from it through their blood and struggle, their courage, solidarity and suffering. Contrast with Norway, where by common consent terrorism is not allowed to change the way they live and do things.

On 8 December 2013 15:09, Philip Whateley <philip.whateley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I seem to remember reading a book back in the 70s which touched on the rationale behind terrorism.

According to the author, the activity of terrorism is not aimed at military victory, nor is it aimed at terrorising a populace into submission.

Terrorist acts are aimed at precipitating a draconian over-reaction, restriction of freedom, and abuse of civil liberties by the authorities in the target state in order to "protect the people" so that ultimately the authorities lose the confidence of the people they govern.

So, given that rationale, are the terrorists winning or not?

Phil

On 08/12/13 14:27, Daniel Robinson wrote:

Kinda makes you wish we went for the id card.. Cctv, freedomless internet, shockingly bad tv, worsoning education, higher tax's no democracy!!!

i'd kindly take the id card if we can get the above back!

On Dec 7, 2013 4:42 PM, "Henry Bremridge" <henry.bremridge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 03:30:12PM +0000, Philip Hudson wrote:
> Just look at the list of personally identified data.
> http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/testimony-regarding-race-to-the-top-funds-for-seattle/
>
>
And similar arguments will apply in most developed countries. And the more
you post on facebook, Tesco Club Card, Nectar and the such like the more
you can be identified.

eg

http://www.businesscomputingworld.co.uk/revealed-secret-piis-in-your-unstructured-data/

Carnegie Mellon computer science professor and data privacy expert
Latanya Sweeney ran the numbers back in 2000: using then current census
data (broken down by zip codes and age groups) she was able to identify
87% of the people in the US using just those three non-PIIs.

Piecing the information together is even easier in the UK, as a post
code will often cover little more than a single street.

http://godplaysdice.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/uniquely-identifying-people-by-birth.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/22/how-just-a-zip-code-can-tell-a-marketer-exactly-who-you-are/

Marketers use the same techniques to gather information about potential
and actual clients. From a few pieces of the puzzle, such as a name and
a ZIP code, data brokers and companies can find an address, the phone
number and other personal data. It’s a simple matter of statistical
probability to find the information.

http://www.afd.co.uk/manuals/postcodeplus/CensTab.asp

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