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Although if mobile phone apps are a target, JavaScript has some merit as a light weight teaching language. But for more detailed, or advanced instruction it has some of the same drawbacks as Perl. Oh and you wouldn't want to use IE as a runtime as half your errors will probably still be in line 0 or 1. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq