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On 28/07/13 18:37, bad apple wrote:
I would also like to add that when if the question of starting services was asked 5 years ago I would have been of a similar opinion. Recently, however, the old methods now fail and a whole new variety of methods seem to exist.. and what used to be a newbie question is no longer.On 28/07/13 18:02, Henry Bremridge wrote:Sorry email went too soon On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 05:59:37PM +0100, Henry Bremridge wrote:For what its worth, I have been emailed and I extract from his emails "highlighted that the lug is elitist" "They will be put off and leave with a very negative reaction to the community"There are whole mailing lists that I delete unread, there are also aspects that I learn from. Occasionally like now I am prepared to contribute. I would hope that the experts use this list: I found the recent discussions on batteries of great help I hope newbies who come across it will feel encouraged to ask questions. Yes they can - and perhaps should - google answers but if they join and eventually learn to contribute the community can growWell, for what it's worth I've been pondering on this, and have retrospectively decided I was wrong. Whilst I'm highly opinionated I'm also luckily smart enough (it's the scientific mindset I think) to prefer being right over consistent - I despise people who refuse to acknowledge mistakes and cling to their original opinion no matter what. So, after some due reflection, considering how impossible it is to accurately draw a line between 'idiotic simplistic question that should never have been asked' and 'incredibly simplistic question honestly asked by the inexperienced' I have come to the conclusion that I need to change my mind. I'm not egotistical enough to believe I don't make mistakes, and that was one of them. I'm still firmly of the opinion that people owe it to themselves to do due diligence though - it's not hard to google things before asking for help, the worst that can happen is it confuses you more, in which case it is worth mentioning that you've at least tried. Kind of like going to a foreign country and at least trying your inept linguistic skills on the natives - they'll laugh at you before replying in decent English, but they'll appreciate the effort, no matter how hapless it is. My moderate French and terrible Japanese are a case in point. Right, next n00b question that comes in is all mine I guess. Regards
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