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On 26 Jun, 2013, at 9:45 am, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:03:54 +0100 Martijn Grooten <sweetwatergeek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello Martijn,On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Kai Hendry wrote:Are we comfortable with that?I certainly am not. But what still isn't clear to me, is how GCHQ deals with encrypted traffic. If they just have to discard it (except perhaps the metadataDo people genuinely believe that, prior to the advent of email,governments did *not* 'spy' on their own citizens? They've always done it, they always will. It's just that email makes it easier for them todo so.Whilst they have the (in theory) ability to monitor all communications,something like 99.99% of it will be of no interest to them. They'll monitor people that are known activists (e.g. Abu Hamza), members of dissident organisations and so forth. The rest will be cherry picked either at random, or flagged because of certain criteria such as keywords.Does anyone here believe that what they get up to is *so* important thatGCHQ monitor their every move? Surely not.
Every word of which is true as far as it goes and for certain data sets; not one word of which is a reason not to constrain the spooks.
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