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Yes, lot of blacklists for email although spamhaus was still best last time I looked, but the pricing is harsh for webhosting. But what I need is lists for blocking comment spam and related abuses. Most of this abuse is from server farms so pretty much the exact opposite of email block lists. The last one I scanned was offering rdp only so presumably hosted desktop or locked down server just for sending abuse. I've blocked Nobis technology entirely, we get nothing but spam and other abuse from their space. I may block "firefox/8" in user agent as that seems common to all the abusing sources, but eperience is that blocking something like that doesn't stop them for long. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq