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On 24/09/12 21:26, paul sutton wrote: > Lubuntu works great for me, however i guess debian + lxde is pretty > much the same sort of thing, or as rob suggested mint. Ah, just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with ubuntu - it's just unity that is so awful. Lubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu, or just replacing vanilla ubuntu's DE, will almost completely restore it to a fully working operating system. I have officially switched to recommending Mint to the curious now, rather than ubuntu which was my default recommendation for many, many years. As for switching, the bigger clients have a lot of legacy systems, compliance issues and other assorted baggage to sort out first but quite a few of my smaller clients, mostly the 1 or 2 man operations on a very tight budget are starting to switch already, usually after a P2V conversion of their old systems and then it's all VMs on linux. Happy days. The problem is of course that half of them are designers/arty types and so they invariably need AutoCAD, Photoshop and/or Quark, those well established ruiners of full open source adoption. Dear god I wish that Adobe would just port CS to linux and be done with it... I'll not be holding my breath though. Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq