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On 05/05/12 17:25, tom wrote: > On 05/05/12 13:27, Mark Evans wrote: > On 02/05/12 12:24, paul sutton wrote: > > >>> 1. the recording industry argument is that if you share this > >>> material on file sharing sites, then neither the company or artist > >>> get anything for it, and you are hurting the industry, which is > >>> a fair argument until > Known as the "lost sales" argument. > > >>> you realise how that money is distributed and it starts to > >>> unravel. > Also how the companies concerned are masters of creative accounting too. > > >>> The fact I can share a track illegally and that person then perhaps > >>> goes out and buys that album anyway is probably never taken into > >>> account. So its a sort of underground promotion ( as you said in > >>> what you wrote above) > There is also a third possibility where someone who couldn't obtain a > "pirate copy" is never a potential customer in the first place. Since > they would not (or in many cases could not) purchase a "legitimate" > copy. I suspect that this may cover the majority of cases. With "lost" > and "gained" sales being minority cases... > I think a classic example of this is NYPD blue (US police series) despite winning several grammy awards, they made 12 series, and have thus far released series 1 - 4 on dvd, and have not as yet released the others, so do fans watch pirated copies, it may be the case in the US of endless re-runs but I have not seen it on tv here for years. I am sure there are other exampls, surely even if they charge £14 for a whole series. Even more annoying if I try and e-mail fox to ask about this I get ignored. hardly a way to treat potential customers. Paul >> > I stopped buying when they bumped up the price and started to refuse returns. Didn’t like it or it was faulty - tough? I used to buy 2 or 3 albums a week. > I don’t bother to pirate - I don’t feel comfortable with it - I just left the market. I'd still go and see live bands in pubs and buy their CD's but they effectively stopped bands playing in pubs, or even small intimate venues. > Films... well I havent seen many that are worth renting let alone buying but I never bought films anyway. > When all is said and done the entertainments industry is about as useful to those who create content as ms is to nokia. > Tom te tom te tom > > -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq