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On 14/04/12 15:54, Robin Cornelius wrote: > On 14 April 2012 15:46, Martijn Grooten <sweetwatergeek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> Anyway, does this mean that I need both a modem and a router? And >>> if so, when I am looking for a new router must I make sure it includes a >>> modem? Up till now I had always assumed that it would. >> >> It'd be hard to find a router that does not include a modem but yes, >> they do exist and yes, you will need both so yes, it is best to make >> sure the router does include a modem. > > We have one that does not include a modem but that is because its > designed to plug in to two ADSL connections at once and so you need to > add on two modems to it. So you can have automatic fall over or load > balancing. > > Most standard off the shelf consumer ones have the modem portion built > in. The ones like i have tend to be more expensive and less common > anyway. > > Robin > Thanks to all for your help. Now I must continue my search for a router which my Xperia phone likes. My phone does not like my current Netgear router and goes through a connect/disconnect cycle. I have tested the phone elsewhere and it is fine. Apparently this is a known problem which I did not find out until too late. (It will connect for about an hour if I reset the router and then it fails again.) I was thinking of ugrading anyway, my router does not have 802.11N and first came out over 10 years ago. So while I am at it I must make sure that the Xperia phone is happy with it. More research, sigh Neil -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq