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On 21/10/11 18:59, Dave Foxcroft wrote: > Oh dear... > > *http://tinyurl.com/6b6j8o5* > > A rant (I know it's ZDNET) but if its true you have to feel for the > guy....we've all been there at least once no matter what the OS! I won't type what I think of the guy as their might be youngsters present. "So when Gnome said there were updates to apply, I said okay." "Iâm no tech babe in the woods. Iâve been a UNIX product manager, Iâve written kernel code, and Iâve taught programming at the college level." So why is he running GNOME on a server? Okay so we know he has no clue on how to run a server. "Oh, and one last point. Donât go telling me I donât know what Iâm doing, because that proves my case against Linux. I know quite well what Iâm doing, but not to the level that is apparently required to keep a simple LAMP machine running." Okay he now knows he doesn't know what he is doing. The amusing thing is Microsoft has been working hard to make the PHP experience better as they realised they were losing market share to people going the other way because the AMP bit and the MP bit is easier on GNU/Linux. "Thatâs how you survive with a Linux distro apparently. Once itâs installed and works, never, ever update it." All mine are bang up to date (although one is running an older debian release it is fully patched), and I've not had a problem from an update in years in Debian stable despite expecting several given some kernel wackiness on some virtual boxes. "Can you imagine my rank naivety here? I actually said Okay to a Linux update. I know I should have known better. I know I should have, instead, formatted another hard drive, ddâd my furry little pile of files over, downloaded the source tarball, compiled everything all over again, prayed to Linus, turned my back to Redmond, and built my entire operating system up from scratch, just to install some security updates." Or just backed it up first. Surely this is the kicker for most of this. Windows pretty much by design needs reinstalling when you mess up, or your hardware breaks. Restoring backups to different hardware is unsupported, and needs serious ninja skills in the Windows world. Our Windows boxes eat resource in needing tender loving care to ADS, when it doesn't really achieve anything more for us than NIS did (username and password synchronisation). If he just wants a simple LAMP stack why isn't he using one of the many virtual server providers who provide instance snapshots, makes undoing this sort of thing a couple of mouse clicks. Amazon instances not big enough for him at 15GB RAM and 1.5TB of local instance storage... -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq