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Just been writing a bit of javascript and it looks like IE8 is screwed: var elem=document.createElement("input"); elem.attribute.type="text"; seems to work on most browsers but not IE8 cant prove for certain ie8 is 'wrong' but it looks like it.. Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq