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On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 10:02 +0100, Gordon Henderson wrote: > People in-general seem to want everything yet aren't willing to pay for > it. That's not my problem it's theirs. > > 10 minutes of googling and asking about will give you the information you > need to know regarding picking an ISP or phone company. > > And it always boild down to the old addage: > > Cheap, Fast, Reliable. > > Pick two. Because that's all you'll ever get. > > Most sheeple pick cheap and get one of the others. I chose fast and > reliable, but am prepared to pay for it. I didn't have any slow downloads > during the world cup or wimbledon. My broadband doesn't slow down at 6pm, > it just keeps on going, but I pay 30 quid a month for that. (plus 12 to > BT) That seems to be the brush I was tarred with in previous replies from you, despite the fact I was paying far more than an average cost on a heavy business package. With broadband it is not a choice of three though as you describe, it is in fact: cheap, fast, reliable, size/capacity/quota (however you want to describe it) The amount of data you need to transfer is as important as the other three, for me its a lot and I expect it to exclude cheap. To be honest, usually the reliable you chose would exclude cheap as well. Well, I've now binned Demon which is a shame after 7years and I am signed up with Eclipse in Exeter on their Business Gold package, who seem to offer one of those "impossible" no limit packages with no traffic shaping. It will be 6 days or so until switch over and despite the extra cost they seem very good after chatting for quite a while on the phone, the level of bandwidth I use was discussed and the guy was I think surprised that I was worried about it for a mere 100-150GB. Certainly I spoke to another customer off list and he is using considerably more and had no issues at all. Sure I would have preferred not to pay any extra, but there you go. Demon actually annoyed me a little by offering to reduce the monthly cost by around a tenner to retain me. money wasn't the issue and I made that fairly clear, they were unable to remove the bw cap though so I left. As for the dream of spending 10 minutes looking for a new ISP; that might work if you are in the industry in some way or spend a chunk of your time researching packages on a regular basis. There is no way in hell you can do it in less than a few hours though with any degree of competence, and preferably by asking around as well. -- John Williams My linux blog of notes and guides http://subbass.blogspot.com/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq